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Old Welsh Guy 1st July 2004 09:09 AM

New MSN search Preview
Have a look at this and good luck with your positions. Currently running in test with 1 billion pages, so certainly not the final iyem. I am well happy with the results so far though :D


David Wallace 1st July 2004 10:43 AM

Well first of all it is slower than molasses. Bad start. I searched for 'Arizona web site design' and no results. Then I searched for 'Arizona contractors' and it erred. I then tried 'Arizona builders' and no results. I then thought, "Okay, let's search for something more general - 'search engine optimization'". It erred again.

I hope this is not an indication of what is to come because so far I am not impressed. Oh, I forgot, this is Microsoft so I guess I should expect them to release a buggy product and then release patches and fixes down the road! ;)

Robert 1st July 2004 12:09 PM

Jennifer has an article about it here:

Logan 1st July 2004 12:46 PM

alpha mode it is. hard to access results, limited index, time will have to tell before evaluating it in my opinion.

when i do get search results (not often enough) i have not been impressed by the lack of 'nesting'. For example - search 'daybeds' and get all results from one site -

thejenn 1st July 2004 01:57 PM

Is that nesting? I always thought it was clustering? Maybe I have my terminology mixed up?

Logan 1st July 2004 02:28 PM

clustering is the right word

- although i'm not sure 'nested results' is incorrect.

bragadocchio 10th July 2004 02:48 AM

I think I've lost both of you in the terminology you've used. I'm not sure that either term is quite right, so I'll explain what I thought that each term meant.

I'm used to seeing clustering in reference to the practice of adding some categories on the side of search results that group (or cluster) results in sets that center on specific themes.

Nesting is when a second page from a site might be displayed as an indented result under the first one, with possibly a link to "more pages from the same site" after the abstract about the site.

I'm guessing that you mean limiting the number of results that appear from one domain in response to a search. I agree that I don't want to see more than one or two results from a site that scores well as relevant, even if all those pages may be the most relevant. Chances are that they also might not be what you are searching for, anyway.

I actually like clustering, nesting, and limiting the number of results from a specific site. I'd guess if I could envision the ideal search engine, those would be some of the features I'd like to see. :thumbsup:

BWelford 10th July 2004 12:03 PM

Well I don't find that very impressive for a search engine which is spidering my website more than Google does.

One page which is #1 in Google and #5 in Yahoo! is not in the first 50 for the new Microsoft. It still is #8 in the regular Microsoft so I don't know what that tells us.

bragadocchio 10th July 2004 04:20 PM

I guess that's sort of a subjective measure there, Barry. ;)

I like the results I'm getting for the keywords I'm looking for. I wouldn't mind if this beta replaced the present day MSN search with the results I'm seeing.

BWelford 10th July 2004 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by bragadocchio
I guess that's sort of a subjective measure there, Barry.

Is there any other kind? :)

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