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fo6dm 17th January 2007 07:19 PM

Presell Pages
 
Has anyone heard of "Presell Pages"? If so, do they work?
Thank you!

Logan 18th January 2007 07:43 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by presell pages. Do you mean paying someone else to promote your site/biz on webpages that are already established and owned by someone else? (typically a bad idea).

fo6dm 18th January 2007 11:13 AM

Yes, that's what I meant...bad idea? Doesn't really work?????

Logan 18th January 2007 12:06 PM

Depends on what you mean by work I guess. I'm not a big fan of them, because once you stop paying you have no value. They then resell the same page you have been paying them to promote to someone else and you find your competitor there when you stop using their services. This is in comparison to developing your own rankings via seo where the benefits of the costs are much more long term because you have ownership (and control) of the promotion you've developed.

Regarding if it works, that's difficult for anyone to say based on your unique scenario. As with most marketing, the only way to find out is to test initial results. Typically most don't have good results, thus with poor results and no ownership it is typically not a good deal for most based on my experiences.

fo6dm 18th January 2007 12:25 PM

hmmmm.....with that thought in mind, why wouldn't my (child tupperware) page be working as it is a link from the mother Tupperware page? is that something different? i do pay tupperware a monthly rate to have the website...which includes all the catalogs and they do supposedly submit our sites to search engines monthly.....but now im thinking why pay them when i could create my own. but, then again i need the catalog options that they offer. i do have my own page that i have been working on. that way i don't have the restrictions that tupperware sets. all i know is that tupperware has been online only 2 years....and there is a lot of opportunity that some have already figured out how to get....i mean they are on top (because of internet sales)....and i want to figure that out too!!!!:partytime1:

St0n3y 19th January 2007 08:50 AM

the other problem with presell pages is that once the engines realize that the site in question regularly sells its page space like that then they are likely to stop allowing them to pass any link value. If the page produces traffic to your site then it can still work for you, but don't expect any long-term search engine benefit.

incrediblehelp 19th January 2007 07:55 PM

Pretty much like Pay Per Post for bloggers.

To be honest I don't see how the search engines will be able to properly battle pay per posting or even creative pre-sell pages, but they can try.

mapbooks4u 31st January 2007 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fo6dm (Post 35667)
hmmmm.....with that thought in mind, why wouldn't my (child tupperware) page be working as it is a link from the mother Tupperware page? is that something different? i do pay tupperware a monthly rate to have the website...which includes all the catalogs and they do supposedly submit our sites to search engines monthly.....but now im thinking why pay them when i could create my own. but, then again i need the catalog options that they offer. i do have my own page that i have been working on. that way i don't have the restrictions that tupperware sets. all i know is that tupperware has been online only 2 years....and there is a lot of opportunity that some have already figured out how to get....i mean they are on top (because of internet sales)....and i want to figure that out too!!!!:partytime1:

Check your agreement, you can not have your own homemade website. Tupperware wants you to only go through them. You will not rank well utilizing their websites because the submit as a whole company, for others to find you through them, a zip code must be entered for your website to appear. You need to advertise your direct url out there to do well.

The ones that are doing well with internet sales you will find are selling on eBay, (also against policy and rules), and/or have built a personal site, I have found several of them, where they are bargain basementing the product which helps them in their quota for high sales or challenges.

Not trying to burst your bubble, just trying to help.

Diana

mapbooks4u 31st January 2007 02:32 AM

As far as the "presell pages", this seems to be somewhat like what Article Insider used to offer. As they evolved and got good page rank, they went to adsense ads instead of selling pages to individual businesses.

Diana

Logan 31st January 2007 10:03 AM

Helpful comments to clarify things Diana! Although, I will note one reseller does have a tupperware sub site ranked in the top 10 for the tupperware search. So it can be done, by one of many.

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To be honest I don't see how the search engines will be able to properly battle pay per posting or even creative pre-sell pages, but they can try.
I felt a little dejavu with text link ads, and while Google is not perfect with that ... they are very good at it imo ... I think this is something that applies which contradicts having that sort of confidence with the statement. They'll figure things out if it becomes out of hand. In the beginning google had no concern or ill consideration regarding paid text link ads. Not so much so now - eh? Maybe those solutions already address this, maybe.


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