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Old 12th April 2006, 08:34 PM   #1
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Default The $10,000 Web Site

Interesting article:

http://christacy.blogspot.com/2006/0...ic-number.html

If I told one of my clients their site would cost 10k, I'd be laughed out of town! This does make you think about the web design industry. It's amazing how web design has become so cheap. You can get on E-Lance, post your project, and have some guy named Akbar from India design your site for $25 (gross exaggeration...but you get the point). Web design has become a volume business...which is terrible for the customers.

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Old 13th April 2006, 07:04 AM   #2
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We sure do find a way to commoditize everything.

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Old 13th April 2006, 10:13 AM   #3
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Interesting article:

http://christacy.blogspot.com/2006/0...ic-number.html

If I told one of my clients their site would cost 10k, I'd be laughed out of town! This does make you think about the web design industry. It's amazing how web design has become so cheap. You can get on E-Lance, post your project, and have some guy named Akbar from India design your site for $25 (gross exaggeration...but you get the point). Web design has become a volume business...which is terrible for the customers.
I have to admit, when my Mom, who is a Director at a Huge Senior Living Facility told me what they paid for thier site and how little they got in exchange for it, I FELL OVER IN MY Chair! "Mom, 1+1 or yahoo could have given you more in 1/4 of the time! Paying alot for Web design now is like paying full price for music.. (sorry that was quite a weak analogy)... MORE COFFEE!

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Old 13th April 2006, 09:52 PM   #4
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Web design is a truly flooded market. Everyone and their brother are web designers these days....sorry, but its true.

Of course, to have a really nice webpage, that is great to look at, easy to navigate, full of information, valid for all browsers, screen sizes, etc is a different story. There are people out there charging $5,000 for junk, and there are people out there that are really good charging $3,000 for really good stuff.

Unless you're a small business, paying that extra to make your website work, and be maintained providing fresh new content every 6 months at least, is a no brainer if you have a web identity at all through search engines or advertising.

Small businesses are the ones that need the lower pricing, but in a free market, large companies feel they deserve the same, hence the "volume" atmosphere to web designing. What small company with under 20 employees has $5,000-10,000 for a website? Not many.

Do your research, find a designer with a good portfolio, and remember cheapest isn't always best, but neither is the most expensive unless they can prove it!

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Jay: I looked over your website. You have an interesting company there, and I'm in your backyard wine tasting quite often

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Old 15th April 2006, 08:53 PM   #6
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Costs of building a website depends on the level of expertise and the level of customers it must serve.

- A few visitors per day vs enterprise level has different programming and hosting needs.
- Designer skill sets - Artistic, coding (php, asp, databases, ruby, CMS, security, seo, photoshop, html, xhtml, css, ajax, javascript, java, unix, etc...)
- Various expensive tools - Flash, dreamweaver, photoshop, illustrator, etc...
- database driven content vs static html pages,
- Templates vs free form design
- addins - forums, chat, ecommerce, galleries, wikis, blogs, etc...
- Customer relations after the sale, Who handles the site if there are hosting problems, security breaches, new requirements that do not fit the original design or scope, etc...

There is much more to building a website than stringing together a few html pages. As designers gain experience they charge more.

There is plenty of work out there for all levels of designers.

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Old 17th April 2006, 01:10 PM   #7
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The situation really hasn't changed that much. There is still a large perception "problem" between what a website is and can do on behalf of its owner.

I remember doing a website for a small travel agency, back when the web was new (no ecommerce, just info). I worked tirelessly for several days developing a $300, 2-page site that incorporated all of the wacky stuff the client desired. I met the client on Monday morning to present the design and finish the job, as arranged, whereupon the client told me, "Oh, I don't need that design anymore. My nephew did it over the weekend." Of course, the nephew site was a single page of centered text. I presented my work and asked if the nephew's site had incorporated all that the client had asked for. He replied, "Well, no, your site looks a lot better, but it doesn't really matter, does it?" End of job. Laugh here.

There will always be clients who don't care, as long as they have a URL on their business cards. And then there will always be clients who understand the value of a significantly better web presence, and will be willing to pay what it's worth.

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You sent him an invoice...right?

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50% up front ... but we both blew off the remaining $150.

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I've had the same kind of experience myself. It is very easy to put up a web page or even a website, but it's not so easy to develop an effective site that will meet business goals.

I think all the WYSIWYG and the many nephew's and neighbor's who will put up a site for nothing have taken some of the perceived value out of good web design/development.

I realize many small businesses just can't pay $10,000 for a site and unless they have some major requirements they shouldn't need to. There's sometimes though a vast difference in expectations of what a website should do and what it should cost.

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