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Old 13th October 2012, 07:08 PM   #1
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Default Proper Use Of "Who" And "That"

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but more and more I've been seeing what I consider to be an improper use of the word "that" in copy.

For instance, I see sentences that read something like, "The man that got called today", and get irritated because I believe it should read "The man WHO got called today.

Which use is right?

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Old 15th October 2012, 08:49 AM   #2
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I agree with you. "Who" goes with people, "that" goes with things.

But, one of my favorite podcasts (Grammar Girl) discussed this and found (to her surprise) that the American Heritage Dictionary stated both are acceptable.

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...rsus-that.aspx

Although one source found it acceptable, in the end, Grammar Girl agrees with us.

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Old 15th October 2012, 01:19 PM   #3
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Yeah I'm not too keen on that example found in #1. Sometimes it works better than other times, but don't be set on hard rules (when it comes to certain types of copy).



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Old 16th October 2012, 01:25 AM   #4
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i agree with you. "who" goes with people, "that" goes with things.
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Old 16th October 2012, 11:07 AM   #5
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If you're a Saints fan, you can just use both and say "Who dat?"

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Old 1st November 2012, 12:12 PM   #6
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Yeah I'm not too keen on that example found in #1. Sometimes it works better than other times, but don't be set on hard rules (when it comes to certain types of copy).

True. In my former life I was a college English teacher. Reading 'that' instead of 'who' is like chewing on grit in the salad. But flexibility is sometimes more important than hard-fast rules, and in the end if the meaning is clear, it's acceptable.

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Old 19th November 2012, 02:54 PM   #7
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I thought I was the only one who found it irritating.
Even if the use of "that" is acceptable I still prefer using
"who". It is more proper anyway.

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Old 20th December 2012, 01:54 AM   #8
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The man WHO got called today is correct. I am agree with Jane's.

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Old 4th March 2013, 01:54 AM   #9
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Correct me if I'm wrong here, but more and more I've been seeing what I consider to be an improper use of the word "that" in copy.

For instance, I see sentences that read something like, "The man that got called today", and get irritated because I believe it should read "The man WHO got called today.

Which use is right?
I am also confuse about this matter also. If you will use this words how does it affect on the sentences you are going to make. I also need some clarification regarding these two words.

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Old 13th March 2013, 12:21 PM   #10
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Ohhhhh, you've hit on one of my major pet peeves. Not only do a lot of people use these words improperly in writing, they misuse them in speaking. It drives me nuts. I actually reached a point where I began to wonder if I was wrong...

Good to have confirmation that I'm right.

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