Welcome to the Small Business Ideas Forum! We are a community of over 100,000 small business folks with over 163,000 posts for you to browse. We pride ourselves on being the friendliest forum you will find and we'd love to have you as a member of our community. Please take a moment and register for a free account. If you need any help, please contact Chris Logan.

Small Business Ideas Forum

Small Business Ideas Forum

A friendly place to share small business ideas and knowledge, ask questions, find help and encourage others that are involved in the small business industry. Topics include small business marketing, generating revenue and small business computing.

Go Back   Small Business Ideas Forum > Small Business Marketing - Online > General Search Engine Marketing Information
Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Thread Tools
Old 25th September 2006, 12:31 PM   #11
VIP Contributor
vangogh's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Boulder Colorado
Posts: 523

I agree with Karri about optimizing for the long tail. It's not about over analyzing and trying to write the perfectly optimized page. You want the writing to be natural. If you want a page to be optimized for 'alternative ways of investing' and if the term is truly in the long tail then using the phrase in your page title and once or twice in the copy might be enough to get the page ranked for that phrase.

But the real idea with long tail is to write naturally and use words related to your main phrase. for example instead of alternative you might use words like different or unique. Instead of always saying investing write sentences that use words like money and finances, etc.

You'll find the page can then rank well not only for your originaly phrase, but also a phrase like 'unique ways to improve finances' and others.

If you find one or more of those phrases you didn't expect to be leadng to higher conversions than the orignal phrase you could either change the page to optimize it more for the new phrase or create a new page for that phrase.

The long tail phrases are not likely to be searched often each month, but you can get a good amount of traffic on a page because it can rank well for many long tail phrases. And those long tail phrases will often convert better.

YellowHouseHosting | TheVanBlog
vangogh is offline   Reply With Quote
Register or log in to remove this ad.
Old 26th September 2006, 03:50 AM   #12
VIP Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 112

Sure, just writing naturally can and will get you long tail traffic.

But as vangogh said, you need to use related keyphrases. Apart from related keyphrases, you can use word derivatives, full or contracted forms, synonyms, etc. As a matter of fact, to use the full arsenal of the long tail optimization tricks, you need to write quite a lengthy article.

And a long article has more chances for getting long tail traffic than a short one. Sure, you can split the article in parts, but what if one part of the long tail phrase was left in the first part and the second part in another?

Something to think about, eh?

A.N.Onym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th June 2009, 08:57 AM   #13

Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 32

although this is an old post but I think long tail keywords now has became a useful strategy for PPC.

Some people may say SEO and PPC is competing each other but I would say they are actually complement each other. Why? because the cost to do SEO for long tail keywords is high(too many keywords to optimize) and it is obviously PPC is more suitable to go for long tail keywords( can set a budget for hundreds of keywords) .
Other other hands, there is a click fraud risk for PPC but for SEO, there is no such worry.

Just my 2 cents.

jamestcs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th September 2009, 10:33 AM   #14
Senior Member
lunartcorp's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 129


Long Tail Keywords has become more used as strategy to rank for more competitive keywords.

Your website get ranked for 6 keywords, and it is a start for 2 of them.

54 of the WORLD's MOST BRILLIANT Business and Marketing Minds. ALL IN ONE PLACE Ready to help YOU for FREE
lunartcorp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th October 2009, 02:49 AM   #15

Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3

The most important task of keyword optimization is to determine whether your pages are optimized for and rank highly in search engines for keywords that people actually want to find. If no one is searching for your targeted keywords, it won't matter how highly the site is ranked in the search engines. This is actually the first part of any keyword strategy that often overlooked.Keyword selection and keyword optimization both are necessary part of search engine optimization.

henrythomas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2009, 01:24 AM   #16

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 67

Will having too many terms hinder the process?

multimediocrity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th November 2009, 12:18 PM   #17
Karri's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 473

Search Engine Guide Blogger


"Will having too many terms hinder the process? "

You want to optimize for just a few (1-3 perhaps) keywords/phrases per page. However, by adding "modifiers" you can capture some high-converting long tail traffic. e.g.

"plasma tvs" can become "48 inch plasma tvs dallas"

See the difference?

Karri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th November 2009, 12:19 AM   #18
michelkhan's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: WI
Posts: 4

You are absolute write that 10 terms provide a lot of traffic. So in order to get top ten we should give more important in long term keyword as result your site will visible in top search term.

michelkhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27th November 2009, 06:52 AM   #19

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 15

A long tail made up of meaningless permutations of keywords and of terms that build off of barely-related thesaurus finds does a disservice to the client.

lelah_jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st December 2009, 04:21 AM   #20
David Morson

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 81

Hey people, "long Tail" I am still not clear what it is all about, please help me out, I wanna know more about this terminology.

David Morson is offline   Reply With Quote


Thread Tools

Get Updates
RSS Feeds:
RSS Feed for General Search Engine Marketing Information RSS for this Category Only: General Search Engine Marketing Information

RSS Feed for Small Business Ideas Forum RSS for Entire Forum
Forum Rules

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Small Business Ideas Forum

At Your Business - Small Business Directory
Free Business Forms - Prewritten Documents
Search Engine Guide
Small business guide to search marketing

Small Business Brief
Fetching the Best Small Business Info

Used Values - Free Links
Blue Book

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:08 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004 - 2018 - Privacy